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Stock Market Crash Forecast: 2016—2018 Start of Colossal Catastrophe

Could the U.S. and the rest of the world be headed for a dire financial crisis, one that could even dwarf the most recent economic downturn, which is considered to be the worst since the great depression?

Although we mostly avoid mundane predictions such as international policy/economic concerns and earthquakes, and focus instead on private individuals and business consulting, since the late 1990s we’ve repeatedly noticed distinct, extremely off-putting cyclical timing patterns (negative or positive extremes are easy to spot) in the comprehensive charts of countless individuals and entities that alert us to a specific period of time in the future.

We’ve been saying for years that we believe the period of 2016-2018 is the start of an overwhelming financial crisis, possibly much worse than the 2000/2001 stock market collapse, and the 2008/2009 credit crisis. 2016 appears to be the peak of the financial markets and economic escalation, with the giant reverse beginning as early as 2016 and as late as 2018, but more likely as late as 2017.

An aside, from our perspective it’s much, much easier to assess financial prospects of individuals versus financial markets, corporate entities, entire economies, etc.; during economic calamities some individuals fare worse than others, and the degree is reflected in the patterns of their unique comprehensive charts including the checks and balances of our systems of analysis. The red-flagged time-frame of 2016–2018 has appeared over and over in so many charts that we have to bring it to your attention.

Please note, to be taken seriously, in our view, any professional making mundane predictions must list all public predictions–the ones they got wrong and right, on their website. No one is 100% accurate, but there must be a clear record of their successes and failures. Unfortunately, highlighting the hits exclusively and fabricating the successes is all too common in the professional psychic industry (and financial investment industry).

Our view is that there will be temporary downturns during the next major long-term upswing in the financial markets, which we believe will start as early as late 2010. By late 2011, the U.S. financial markets will have begun a dramatic, long-term escalation, but of course you will see occasional, now-common, heavy volatility along the way.

If you find yourself asking from 2011 through 2015 if a particular financial markets’ correction is the culminating collapse that will finally lead to feasible government policies (unlike the current ones) being put into action, it won’t be. You’ll know when the concluding crash happens and you won’t have to ask. It will be that big.

We believe that between 2011 and 2016-2018 will be known as the roaring teens period for the financial markets (especially the U.S. markets), and thus for the world’s major economies, and that many people will forget about the fact that booms frequently end in busts, especially when the foundation of the recovery is built on unsustainable economic policies.

What will cause the disaster in 2016–2018?

What’s currently happening in Greece may foretell the imminent. The Greek government has been spending and borrowing way beyond its means for years, is being suffocated by debt, and is all but bankrupt. 25% of the Greek workforce are government employees and many have fat pensions and full retirement benefits: 14% of Greeks are government early retirees (at age 50 for women and 55 for men), with the average retirement age of 61. Unfortunately, too many Greeks have become used to excessive government entitlement programs and since such programs have to be downsized to deal with economic reality, they are outraged.

Why Greece Isn’t Really Saved

Although many financial experts are now saying the Greek Tragedy has been averted with a financial rescue plan by the International Monetary Fund and the European Union, Simon Black, Senior Editor of the website SovereignMan, says,

“…anyone with two brain cells to rub together recognizes that Europe’s economic woes cannot be contained with more paper money… and now the problem just became $1 trillion worse.”

“Battling back from an economic crisis requires hard work, savings, and minimal disruption from the government. There’s no magic pill, entitlement program, or paper money bomb that will suddenly make things better.”

“Instead, governments should be curtailing social benefits that encourage people to be lazy, while simultaneously stripping taxes to the bare bones in order to give entrepreneurs and investors the proper motivation to work hard, take risks, and hire employees.”

“These things are not happening, nor will they ever happen in the foreseeable future. And so, backed by Europe’s trillion dollar pledge, Greece will likely go back to business as usual… spending money that it doesn’t have, and making its problems exponentially worse.”

The U.S. is on the Same Path

Even though the European debt crisis may appear to be under control by the end of 2010, it’s to be expected that Europe, including Greece, America, and Japan are heading for a financial brick wall with government spending and regulations out of control and funny-money solutions. The causes of previous financial crises mirror how politicians are handling the problems now, which will only serve to create the next crisis.

Although the overall message we relay here isn’t very optimistic, everything is cyclical, and there will be more prosperous times after the coming financial catastrophe we speak of. We believe that the U.S. won’t cease to exist for at least another 200 years, and the U.S. will likely shock many with its resiliency and subsequent economic triumphs.

The root (or at least a major part) of the next financial calamity, as outlined above by Simon Black, now seems obvious. It is clear to us that the world’s governments will not have the foresight or ability to act and change the path we’re on until after the next huge disaster.

Just keep this in mind when the financial markets are soaring in the upcoming years: When things look too good to be true, remember that they usually are. Capitalize on the trends, but avoid excessive risk.

Copyright © 2010 Scott Petullo, Stephen Petullo

41 Responses

  1. I certainly hope this anomaly is just that and you get to file this in the “Wrong” category. Unfortunately I don’t really believe that…. But that seems to be the current way society deals with the unthinkable. It does not fit into the politically correct and social elite way of thinking. Great objectivity and great article guys – keep up the great work.

    Semper VI

  2. Given that the US cannot pay off it’s debt unless it doubles all taxes (including income tax) according to the IMF, and that they borrow 41 cents on the dollar to keep their system going, a loss of confidence in it’s fiat currency causing the US to face higher interest on it’s already excessive debt seems enevitable. I have zero confidence.

  3. This is proving accurate. Market in USA hitting all time highs today (June 5th 2014.) Look at the DJIA chart for Buttonwood meeting, May 1792 and you can see why transit of Uranus and Pluto to the oppositions across Aries-Libra show severe crises coming. Plus USA is approaching its Pluto return. Also, examining transit of Mars to 15 degrees of Leo or Aquarius shows (hits Buttonwood Uranus there, at 15 Leo) banking and market crises occurred May 11th 1931 in Austria, triggering world banking metdown. Repeat in August 1971 when Nixon went off gold standard. October 1987 and October 2008, similarly. Also look for when Saturn is in mid Sagittarius and Neptune in mid Pisces. This indicates conflict of forces of delusion and reality. Saturn is depressing in Sagittarius. The last time these two behemoths hit each other like this was 2006-07, leading to last crash and depression. Expect the greatest risk and falls in first week of September 2016 as Saturn and Neptune square each other and Uranus hits 24 Aries in 45-135 degree formation to Saturn\Neptune. This will see widespread commencement of panic and downward stock markets. However, this will not be a full scale huge drop but just the beginning of a shift to a different reserve currency in the world and changes to world economic balances. A greater lurch down will start in February 2017, around the 28th, 2 days after the Pisces eclipse conjunct to Neptune. Finally, on August 7th 2017, will come the end stage, which will see financial form of Armaggeddon and a need for total rethink of how we use money and distribute it, as currency wars and collapse of Japan, lead to a blank slate approach to new ideas. On the 7th August 2017 there is an eclipse at 15 Aquarius and a few days later Mars lands on 15 Leo. Expect 80% falls in USA markets in total. The chaos will culminate in mid October 2017, as Jupiter and Uranus oppose each other, at the same time as Mars squares Saturn. This is , of course, the Saturn return of the 1987 crash.
    I am an astrologer with a Diploma from the Faculty of Astrological Studies in London, 1993.

  4. Scott thanks for this post its a great read.

    What are your thoughts from an astrological point of view regarding fuel cells and that sector it seems renewable energy is making more noise and fossil fuels are looking like a thing of the past?

    I ask you as many fuel cell companies in the US are trading at very low levels and if in the coming years fuel cell is going to be a thing of the future is now a good time to buy these fuel cell companies?
    In amercia there are companies like BLDP/FCEL/PLUG etc etc etc

    I just wonder whether these fuel cell companies are entering a “great” astrological cycle period and are ready to explode!

    Thanks

    1. Thanks for your comment. The way to analyze it, in my view, is to review the comprehensive charts of each company’s majority shareholders. Let’s say a dozen investors own 70% of the equity in a publicly traded entity. If extremes (rewarding or challenging) show up in each of those dozen shareholders’ comprehensive charts, particularly if those dozen have the bulk of their net worth in the entity, I can get a very good idea of the direction of the stock.

  5. Saturn was in late Sagittarius in 1929 and 1987, as it will be towards the end of 2016,…my view will be that a financial crises will either happen in early 2017 as Gann said that years ending in “7” historically were problem years for the markets.

    If astronumerology of the kabbalists is used with the USA number being 5, and with 2019 being a 3 year, which makes the planet Saturn (resonant number 8) the indicative planet to watch for that year.

    In September 2019 transiting Saturn will square the natal Saturn position of the USA , and the transiting Saturn will head towards a conjunction of transiting Pluto happening exact in January 2020, with the transiting sun in conjunction with Saturn/Pluto on January 19, 2020.. Any of the aspects either in 2017 or 2019-20 could point toward financial catastrophes.

  6. Thanks for this Scott (and all commentators).

    It seems to me that what is unfolding now across the world is a period of karmic reckoning harbinging in the end of the age of Pisces and the rise of the Aquarian one. These historically turbulent periods have been rolling out since the Renaissance, itself the first incident of a crashing of the two eras. Pisces, the last sign, a night house, water sign ruled by Jupiter and has seen vast fortunes built off the back of trade facilitated by ocean travel and the violent enslavement of whole populations for colonial expansion.
    It was the time of baron robbers, rich monarchies and one group mind religions.
    That era is ending.
    Aquarius is a day house, ruled by Saturn and air. The grid mapping of the globe as from the air, space and air travel, mass education, the light anachronistic rather than dark progressive interpretation of both time and space and eclectic egalitarian collectives such as the LGBT or Ren Faire communities all flag Aquarius. Also, open information for everyone as is being facilitated by the internet.
    The hidden high priesthood of state secret police and their dirty deeds done in the dark are all expressions of a debauched Jupiterian Piscean age.
    These current Saturn/Pluto alignments are going to keep exposing more and more of the filthy underbelly of all our Deep States and leave all of those individuals complicit nowhere left to hide away. This will include the financial and corporate oligarchies but it will not be all that will face ongoing violent transformation.
    Aquarius is, above all else, at its best, a sign of truth, justice and humane dignity.
    So money, in its present form, is very unlikely to survive.

  7. Well we are entering the first week of September and mike Kirk in the comments section highlighted this will be a very bad period for the stock market due to delusions etc.
    I will watch eagerly.
    Mike Kirk gave a very detailed explanation. The markets are at all time highs and no one see’s a problem but that is much like 2001/2008.

    One thing is for sure very few see any problems out there and that in itself is very worrying indeed.

    Good luck to everyone

  8. Good luck in return.
    I think that the recent precipitous move by the EU Commission to retroactively tax Apple against the local regulations of the sovereign Irish nation state seemingly in response to the collapse of TTIP is the opening shot of an economic war. A war between oligarchies in the US/UK and the EU. It is proof that our Deep State governing plutocracies are utterly bankrupt and are now choosing to use their might to go after and thieve wealth via any new tax they can create any business that still shows a healthy profit. These actions will have a dire knock on effect upon the stock market sooner or later.

  9. Thanks for the reply, well the first week of September seems to be passing without any problems, whether or not Mike Kirk meant this coming week as the first week of September with it being the first full week I am not sure.

    It would be nice if Mike could comment on the current situation as he gave his timings with such conviction which is something that is admirable as most do not have that conviction.

    One things for sure should he be correct it does a lot for astrological studies as the vast majority are so sceptical.

  10. So looks like Mike kirk was totally incorrect with his astro readings which is a shame as when someone is so specific and it turns out to be correct it sheds light on this fascinating study.

    We are now approaching the final week of september and all markets are at near all time highs and the fed did not raise rates yesterday.

    Anyone else have any form of a reading on the current situation?

  11. Hi,

    I have been watching both the financial and astrological worlds on the web for the past eight years or so. I am only versed in financial matters in a personal manner bring born into a politically placed wealthy US family and the harsh truths and lessons through my experience of engineered tragedy by the variant mobsters who now run our democratic establishment of forced exile and penury but I also have a 30 year long interest and training in astrology and related esoteric disciplines.

    What I would say, perhaps obviously after the above comments, is that the crisis is already upon us. It depends upon where you are placed as to whether you will have been broken already. Over the coming four to five years the criminals in charge will deregulate the deregulation and if you are on the inner track you will make a vast fortune. If you are not but are relatively well off you will begin to feel the restrictions of an ever smaller amount of real wealth in circulation as it is grabbed and horded by the few. If you are a working Joe you will really suffer as many are already.

    This crisis is unfolding in waves over years across our world. I find it helpful to think of the biblical story of new wine in old caskets to explain the increasing chaos we are all experiencing to some degree. Our centuries old system of centralised usury having been placed as the only way to rule by our present hegemonies is no longer politically fit for purpose for our globalised and overpopulated world. The old ruling plutocrats with ever more money will not be able to finally control the social chaos. Think of the last Iraq oil war and how this old style nationalist war of superior power to plunder a weaker nation has ignited civil wars across the middle east, unleashing a tsunami of refugees.

    The ongoing ‘revelations’ of institution wide epidemic proportions of child sexual abuse in our societies are not unrelated to our usury system. They are both expressions of abuse of power by hollow individuals upon those who are not and therein vulnerable.
    So in our modern societies wherever there is great wealth and power rape is normalised.

    I expect there to be some kind of ‘reckoning’ that even the postwar powerful wealthy elite of the West cannot escape the consequences of come 2020/1.

    Until then, if you possess the ruthless gambler mindset you could make a lot of money.

  12. So it doesn’t appear the market is anywhere close to going down. Doesn’t seem like the prediction came true for the crash

  13. I was planning to be long atleast for 6 months or so as the bullish trend seems to continue. Your article suggests that there is a strong change for the market to crash this year. But that article was written a long time back. Would you still agree with the risk of crash in the next few months, or have you changed your mind looking at the recent rally?

    1. I still maintain what I said in the above article, published June 2010:

      “…the period of 2016-2018 is the start of an overwhelming financial crisis, possibly much worse than the 2000/2001 stock market collapse, and the 2008/2009 credit crisis. 2016 appears to be the peak of the financial markets and economic escalation, with the giant reverse beginning as early as 2016 and as late as 2018, but more likely as late as 2017.”

      Not sure exactly what would trigger it (European financial crisis?), but seems to me a major correction is in store by the end of 2017.

  14. ok thank you for the comments.. do you see this major correction happening even sooner than year end, possibly within the next 6 months? I had a lot of my money invested in the market and am playing bullish, so want to be careful..

    Surprising everyone thought the market would collapse after election results, and it keeps going up.. and with Trump’s policies of deregulation and tax cuts, the market optimism is at its peak..

  15. For some few that is most certainly true, in fact they are set to make even larger fortunes over the coming years. However, the capitalist system is structured as a socio-political game of winners and losers. So the fewer bigger winners of material wealth the larger and more extreme the numbers of losers of the same. So it does not necessarily follow that the crash is not happening, just that you are not yet affected.

    Our Calvinist material progressive political education simplistically equates material wealth with spiritual and moral worth. So out of instinctual self preservation those who are falling from the greatest height, losing the most, will self blame and be silent and hide their suffering from intolerant family, friends and media. You will not see it.

    I think you will find the global financial unravelling is in play but one needs to be looking beneath the shiny, Hollywood success reflectors of the upper decks of the ships of state to see just how bad it really is. Ships rarely sink all at once, rather, once holed, they invisibly take on water (social meltdown) and then unpredictably begin to list to one side
    ( recent US election, Brexit etc..?) before going down fast.

  16. Thanks Scott, for the insights. So if you are still thinking the major correction that you had predicted in 2010 worse than 2000 and 2008 crisis, you are probably thinking the DOW would be less than 10k by end of the year (about 50% correction)? That would be extreme if that happens this year, as everyone is talking about the market only going up

  17. But I see some others also who are validating from astrology that when saturn is in last stage of saggitarious it leads to a crash.. so I saw some others saying Oct 2017 can be disasterous for the market.. so maybe your prediction of the approx 50% crash this year (even though may see unlikely at this point) will happen

  18. Hi Scott, Just one thing I want to mention.. even though overall your prediction was extremely accurate.. I think one of the predictions you had was the peak of the markets to be 2016, but we have seen the market has moved up about 5% since 2016, and it continues to go up.. so that might not have been correct for the 2016 to be the peak.. but it does appear to be amazingly accurate overall.. I have sold all the positions so hoping that the crash could happen anytime now (as you said you still think that the major correction will happen this year)

    Is your prediction also based on the astrological charts?

  19. Dear Anonymous,

    Scott, as I am sure he will write to you, based his 2010 prediction upon the amount of synchronous potentially catastrophic astrological transits occurring in his clients personal charts over this period.

    The Fall of this year still sees a challenging period which could lead to fiscal restrictions. All predictive astrology is an art as much as a science, and is as dependent upon the individuals actual life experiences and their understanding of human nature as upon the tried and tested rules of classical horary.

    Scott is extremely proficient in both so we would all be well served to pay attention to anything he chooses to prognosticate.

    But the ways and means that astrological configurations can play out are as complex and multifarious as the motives of its human actors. And they are not always obvious.

    Here comes my two cents worth:
    My recent harsh personal experiences of the murder machine of Washington’s IRS bureaucracy, coupled with my limited astrological understanding, indicate a pressing need to look sub rosa, beneath the surface of things. If you or Scott are not yet aware of the Obama administrations 2010 Hire Act addendum, its FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) legislation and the brutal, often criminal, manner in which it has been expeditiously rolled out worldwide upon ordinary, mostly middle to low income law abiding US expats, green cardholders and their family members in recent years, to pave the way for the implementation of a US (legal administration) UK (financial administration) partnership imposition of its true aim, agreed to by the OECD a few years back, of a global taxation regime aka GATCA, now is the time to become aware. The Isaac Brock Society website being the best portal for real information on this frightening oligarchic development.

    The Founding Fathers would be turning in their graves and speaking as a direct descendant of Washington, I suspect he and Marsha would have chosen to either take up arms against their oppressors or moved to France by now !
    Both the rise of Trump and Brexit have been duly engineered to smooth the path for this potentially enormous new stream of revenue for the postwar global corporatocracy.

    To date, most of the world’s governments have now signed up to implement FATCA. The incredibly fast executive order legislation regarding US border control are as much to do with finding an excuse to finally fulfil the longterm desire by the connected Reed Amendment ( Senator Reed being a primary mover for this legislation) to fund a border police trained in taxation evasion to control all the worlds citizens financially and use them as tax cash cows to keep their big government coffers full and their, very lucrative for the few, broken systems ticking over, as it is to deal with illegal or criminal aliens.

    If successful, and so far the corporate controlled global mass media has blocked or distorted information on this issue, for very obvious reasons, (FATCA when mentioned is always connected to big tax evaders the acronym even cleverly designed to rabble rousr through envy with its allusion to ‘fat cats’) this unfolding sub rosa event will certainly delay Scott’s prediction for some years.

    Good luck negotiating these economic and social Storms.

    1. Please read the second paragraph of the article. I recommend avoiding the “This (one single indicator such as transiting Saturn) means that (a specific circumstance such as a financial crisis)” approach. Review the history of the world’s major financial collapses and you’ll see they don’t take place every 29+- years (Saturn return).

  20. Thank you Scott.. So it must be based on several indicators that you use to predict the extreme volatilities (up or down)? I guess it is more than just astrological trends that are suggesting to you about this upcoming crash..

  21. One more thing to clarify for me.. you have mentioned a few places in the article that this crash could even make the 2008 crash look small.. so could we expect even bigger than a 50% drop? 2008 crash was about 50% drop and seemed to be very significent at the time.. It appears from your article that we might be seeing even bigger drop this time

  22. I witnessed firsthand the depth and scope of the criminal negligence and breathtaking fraudulent practises of the UK’s Royal Bank of Scotland (and its Irish handmaiden Ulster Bank) often in open collusion with the City of London and the UK and Irish governments, during the lead up to the 2007/8 crash. And I have kept an eye on these crooks. They continue to lie big about just about everything on their debt books. So far all of their attempts to wait for inflation and/or a new property bubble to wash away their previous heinous fiscal sins have failed.

    So any educated prediction about just who or what will catalyse the next crash, could do worse than watch the unfolding revelations regarding RBS.

  23. Hi Scott, Interesting video on similar debt related problem that you have highlighted in your article. I read more about David Stockman, and he is a well respected person and he is positive that starting Mar 15th there will be a huge problem unfolding on the $20 Trillion debt ceiling. I thought I would share with you..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDHJGYUcilk

    1. Karan, it may not matter what I think about particular investments since I’m not a financial advisor. It’s not my area of expertise. Though many of the investment pros I respect say the long-term outlook for gold is excellent.

  24. Do you guys think that the China debt situation will be the trigger for this upcoming crisis? It’s amazing the market keeps moving up and creating new highs every week…

  25. Hi all,

    In 2014 I forecast huge drop commencing August 2017 in Dow Jones. This appears to have started in February 2018, as the sun and NN exactly hit the eclipse point from August 17.

    Looking at Uranus and Mars transits in this year, the date of 24th-28th October seems like the major risk point. Of course dramatic crashes do not happen on their own. They are simply representative of a set period during which there is a 25% or more decline off the top. So the period 2018-22 will see, in my view, a decline of 35% with only about 20% by the end of 2018. The planetary cycles in this period are tumultuous and Pluto and USA chart are in lock step.

    The recent drop of 1500 points last week is a mere tremor and nothing that big will happen again until October. N Korea not withstanding!

    Barbault, French astrologer, is master on this.

    Mike Kirk
    Dip Astrol.S. (UK)

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